Tom Pringle — Concluding Remarks On His Motion Regarding Ireland and The Eurozone

23 May 2013. Concluding remarks to the Dail  on his motion regarding Ireland and the Eurozone, by Thomas Pringle TD, Independent representing Donegal South West.

I would like to thank the fellow members of the Technical Group for their support on this motion and other members of the House for their contributions in the debate, although I think a lot of the contributions were very standard and a bit disappointing in terms of the debate that we have in Ireland about Europe and the future of Europe. This motion had only called for two simple actions. One was to initiate a debate through civil society on the future direction of the European Union, and the other, then, was to ensure the treaty change includes a process to allow the Eurozone’s member states to voluntarily leave the Eurozone – not the European Union. And I think what there wasn’t from the opposite side of the House over the last two nights of this debate, was any debate about the future and about what the future of the European Union will be. And that, I think, is a sign of the problems that are right across this state and right across this government. There is no discussion about the future. But I would remind Members in this House that Barosso and Hollande and Merkel are all talking about the future, and they have a map and they have a plan about where that future is going to lie. Barosso said in the past, that “Europe has all the hallmarks of Empire.” He said on the seventh of May that the proposal that he’ll be bringing forward on treaty change will “look like political science fiction,” but that it will be a reality in a few years’ time. So he’s looking to the future. He’s talking about the future. He knows what future he wants for Europe! Hollande wants an EU government with harmonized taxes, harmonized budgets that can tackle this crisis, as he calls it. Merkel wants “more Europe,” and wants it to work towards the creation of a European Army. So they know the future that they want. And is it the fact that this Government knows that future too? And, that’s why you don’t want this debate, because you don’t want the Irish people to know where the future lies. And the future like in a United States of Europe, and a federal Europe, with an army, with a centralized government, and where a nation like Ireland will have no say, and will be a very small part of that federalized Europe. And it was interesting to see the amendments that were put forward by Fianna Fail and Sinn Fein, who have just totally pegged their political futures and the future of this country to the Euro and to stabilizing the Euro, and getting us through this crisis with the Euro intact. And the point about that is, that the tradeoff for this will be the creating of, seeing the “political science fiction” come to fruition, that Barosso talks of. So we’ll peg ourselves to stabilizing the Euro, and in the meantime we’ll sleepwalk this country into a United States of Europe. And Enda Kenny said here in this House last June, that that would never happen, and the answer to that question is that, no, he would never let that happen on his watch. But we will see it happen; we’ll see it happen over the next few years, and what will happen here in this country, is, we will wake up one morning, and we’ll realize that we’re in a “United States of Europe,” and everyone will be wondering then, “How did we actually get here?!” We got here because we pegged ourselves solely to the preservation of the Euro. The only policy we’re pursuing is to maintain that Euro and keep it going, and the tradeoff for that will be a European superstate that the elite in Europe want to create, want to make a reality. And that is the sad reflection of this Government’s policy and their relation to the Eurozone and the Euro currency itself.

Ensuring that the treaty change would allow the member states to voluntarily leave the Euro leaves policy options open. The Fianna Fail have said here in the House, that the Euro is irrevocably and irreproachably here to stay. The European Central Bank has said the same and said that it was never intended for anybody to ever leave the economic monetary union. And this motion calls for that option to be there. It’s a policy option that a government can pursue and a future government can pursue. But every party in this House has tied themselves to the Euro and to the creation of further integration, and to complete fiscal union and political union goes along with this. Deputy Mitchell (Olivia Mitchell, Fine Gael TD, ed)  accused me of sedition for putting down this motion. Well I’m afraid we need to see more “sedition” in this House. We saw the sedition of the Labour Party before the election, where they promised all sorts of what they were going to do in Europe, and when they got into the ring of the Fine Gael party – who actually are the Irish version of the Tory Party, not anybody over here on the independent benches — when they got under their wing, their sedition was surely put to an end. I think we need more sedition, and we need more debate, and we need more talk about the future and what the future holds, so we can make our decisions on the basis of knowledge, not on the basis of blindly following what we’re told to do.(nco)

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