LaRouchePAC Policy Committee Show (with transcript)

 

 

TRANSCRIPT

DIANE SARE:  Good afternoon, and welcome to the LaRouche PAC weekly discussion with the Policy Committee.  I’m Diane Sare of the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee from Manhattan and filling in for Matt Ogden today; and I’m joined here in the studio by Ben Deniston of LaRouche’s Science Team.  We are joined remotely by Bill Roberts from Detroit, Michigan; Kesha Rogers from Houston, Texas; and by Michael Steger from San Francisco, California. Today is the 27th of February, the day before President Donald Trump will address both Houses of Congress.

I guess I had Rachel on my mind because we were discussing here the days of action that we just had all over the United States and actually all over the world.  I can say that I’ve been pulling together the roundup on what was done.  This was a “Day of Truth” that was called for by Helga Zepp-LaRouche, and the point of it was to address the fact that three years ago last week, you had a color revolution coup in Ukraine, which was funded in large part by George Soros.  The money was funneled through the U.S. State Department to the tune of $5 billion, as Victoria Nuland, our Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, stated.

What happened was there a violent overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine, Yanukovych, who was replaced by a hard-core neo-Nazi regime.  Many, many lies were told about this both at that time and currently, as part of the narrative in the U.S. media and the international media that somehow Russia was to blame, Putin was to blame, Putin hacked the U.S. elections, etc.; and that what you have going on right now is an attempt to create a color revolution in the United States to undermine and possibly overthrow the Trump Presidency.  I’ll just remind people that the London Spectator which did so much to lead to the impeachment, although not successfully, of Bill Clinton had an article in January, “Will Donald Trump be Assassinated, Ousted in a Coup, or Just Impeached?”  — that was the title.  This is London.  It comes from London as the origin of the coup.  So a dossier was produced; it’s 17 pages long. It is available through the LaRouche PAC website, on the EIR website, which went through what actually happened in Ukraine. [http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2017/2017_01-09/2017-08/ pdf/04-21_4408.pdf]

We held rallies and distributions and also a great deal of electronic circulation of this report, and it turns out it really was worldwide.  We were emailing this to governments in Mexico, Venezuela, Germany, France, Sweden, Denmark, etc.. The center was really in Manhattan where I was interviewed by a reporter from TASS, which actually wrote a lengthy article on what we were saying in the report, but also reminding people that it was LaRouche’s Schiller Institute that had held the memorial for the Alexandrov Ensemble; then another interview on Sputnik.  Sputnik ran coverage in French, Arabic, etc., all over the world.  And as a result of this action, there have been a number of rather interesting responses.  I think the first and most significant is that George Soros has come out screaming that he is not contributing, at least directly—I think his language was he is “not directly involved” in the anti-Trump protest in the United States.  So, he is feeling the heat, which is very good; we should keep it up.

Mrs. LaRouche reported this morning that a Russian expert in Die Welt, Michael Stürmer, had an article saying that Obama’s demonization of Putin really seems to be backfiring but we shouldn’t get into all the details of what happened into Ukraine, that would be too long, blah, blah, etc.  But further to indicate the British are not giving up, they had coverage in BBC of a German carnival and the main float that was at the top of their page was a picture of the Statue of Liberty holding up the decapitated head of President Trump! So anyone who thinks there is not a white hot rage or a serious attempt, as far as including assassination or threat of assassination to blackmail and undermine this Presidency, is not thinking straight.

Now what is their fear?  Their fear is that President Trump has at least expressed an intent to do a couple of extremely significant things.  One is to change the dynamic of the relationship between the United States and Russia; and if the United States works with Russia as well as working with China and Japan, this breaks out of the entire last 50 years of Cold War geopolitics—it changes everything; it’s the end of the British Empire.

The other thing that Trump has expressed which is something we have been fighting for is the question of the reinstatement of the original Franklin Roosevelt Glass-Steagall Act.  He had called it a “21st Century Glass-Steagall,” but it is Glass-Steagall.  That is very, very urgent because it will wipe out the derivatives bubble of Wall Street. And I should say what is being said—David Stockman, who was in the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan has correctly warned, we are heading for a crash.  And that President Trump cannot do what President Reagan did because he’s come into a situation which is far worse.  The national debt is a far greater percentage—I think it’s 105% of the GDP, is what he said; whereas, when Reagan came in, it was 30% of the GDP, and so on.

But then what Stockman identifies as the problem, is the amount of spending on entitlements or spending on this, which is the real failure of understanding, which is why Mr. LaRouche actually wrote the Four Laws: Because spending on those things which increase the productivity of your population, spending on those things which create a physical improvement of the standard of living, those things do not increase the debt, per see. Those are a debt which as Hamilton said is “extinguishable,” whereas, printing trillions of dollars to bail out a bubble of nothing—that definitely harms the economy.

The point is the solution is there in LaRouche’s Four Laws and that question which has been brought up in an interesting way over the weekend on some of the policy discussions and studies that are being mooted by President Trump himself when he gave his Inaugural Address, the question of the space program and various things that are being proposed right now to get human beings back into space and orbiting the mood are exactly the way we need to go.  I just wanted to lay out that strategic picture of where we are and maybe Kesha and Ben, you have something to say on this latest point.

BEN DENISTON:  Sure.  I don’t know if Kesha wants to start, but obviously her role in leading the campaign to save NASA in the context of eight years of Obama’s attacks definitely I think makes Kesha a critical national figure on this whole fight.  So, if you want to go first.

KESHA ROGERS:  I’ll go ahead.  I think what Diane just laid out in terms of where we are, makes this initiative that we now see the potential coming out of the Trump Presidency so much important because it’s not the details, but is what the intention is.  And the intention in terms of, first of all, what we saw under President Obama with the utter, disgusting attack and dismantling on our space program with the cancelling of the Constellation program, that we had a trajectory before Obama came into office, that we would actually have a return to a lunar presence—to the Moon and that was being done with the Constellation program. There were plans already being put in place with our space station as well as with the Constellation and with the shuttle program.

When Obama came in, as people remember, this was one of the key things that Lyndon LaRouche said was a “near act of treason,” from what Obama did to shut down that commitment and now for the first time, you are having discussions coming from the President Trump administration and coming from President Trump himself.  If people remember during his Inaugural Address, he made NASA and putting our presence back in space at the forefront of his Presidential agenda and the economic agenda; making the point that NASA and our space program and the U.S. returning to a forefront in the space program was going to be essential to actually addressing some of the economic concerns of the nation.

And I think that is absolutely important, because for the first time now, there is a discussion of having the United States regain a permanent presence or regain a discussion for returning the United States back to the Moon.  This has been an ongoing discussion that has been taking place globally.  As people know, we have been discussing the role of the ESA (European Space Agency), China—these various other agencies that have made the point, that has continued to be made going back to space pioneers such as Krafft Ehricke, that the Moon is the essential launching pad for a permanent presence in space and our Solar System.

I think that this is important that this is being discussed right now, that since Feb. 24th, there was the announcing by the Trump administration of doing a feasibility study, which from my understanding, President Trump called for this himself from various directors, personalities within the space program, within NASA—to take what has been the Orion SLS (space launch system), which was slated to fly a non-man orbiting of the Moon in 2018 to now pushing the timeframe up to 2019 for what is the feasibility of putting a manned crew on this launch system.

Now, there are a lot of questions to be answered about one, the safety of this. We haven’t actually had human beings go onto a launch system for a very long time, except with the space shuttle mission.  Prior to that, the testing of systems was done unmanned.

But I think that the most important thing is the fact that we had taken off the table, the commitment to returning to the Moon, and now there is strong recognition coming from the United States that this has to be on the agenda once again.

I think the thing that we have to focus on and the unique and crucial role of Lyndon LaRouche and what he composed with his Four Laws, putting the fourth law of a dominant fusion economic driver, fusion economy has to be clearly identified in this policy.  Because right now going down the same trajectory and saying we’re going to have a Moon mission, we’re going to have a revival of space program, without Glass-Steagall, without a science-driver from the standpoint of a propulsion system that goes back to the directive of a fusion system, is really not addressing the urgently needed matters that have to be addressed.

So, we have a situation where we have a very unique opportunity in front of us.  We are definitely at a point where we have to think about the potential that is being brought into existence right now: that our space program can be revived, that as President Trump is slated to give his State of the Union Joint Session of Congress speech tomorrow, the key has to be as we have continued to emphasize that we have to relaunch the principles of Alexander Hamilton, what Lyndon LaRouche has called for, a return to a credit system program.  We need to increase the spending of our space program.  We have to return to a national banking policy and to Glass-Steagall to shut down the derivatives speculation so that we can address what will be the feasibility and what will be the essential measures needed to provide the resources to get the United States back on the right track for taking a role of leadership in space exploration once again.  And so this is why LaRouche’s Four Laws are absolutely vital right now; and as we understand that Marcy Kaptur, Congresswoman who initiated the Glass-Steagall Act is continuing to take up petition signatures to urge President Trump to put Glass-Steagall in the forefront of the agenda, this gives all the more reason why that’s absolutely essential.

DENISTON:  And I think this also goes back to what Diane was saying about why the Trump Presidency is such an existential threat, because that’s also the space program.  That’s taking, as Mr. LaRouche often references, if you go to the original pioneers, the original thinkers around the space program, it’s clear this represents a new era for mankind.  It’s always been connected with the idea, and you see this throughout all endeavors in space, it really lifts people out of a lot of, maybe to use the terminology today, “geopolitical thinking.”  It really forces people out of this idea of this one small planet, where they’re squabbling over who gets what resources in this domain, who has influence here or power in this sphere.  And it’s been always associated for a very real reason, with the idea that mankind is a creative species that does not have limits, that does not have constraints other than our own foolish failure to progress.

So, when you look at what does the space program really mean today, it really is the future of mankind.  It’s returning, for Americans, a much longer lost tradition and orientation to actual growth and development.  We’ve often pointed to the fact that we went from the first airplane to man on the Moon in 50 years, and 50 years later we’re no further.  We’ve lived now two generations with just a  zero-growth, no development mentality, and the idea of a fusion space program is the central pillar of the next leap for mankind, and we have to again get people to think about leaps and complete changes in what the human species is.

And we should be thinking about space, not as some exotic frontier that just a few people are always going to maybe dabble in, but we should be thinking 100 years into the future, when mankind begins to conquer the inner Solar System, the same way we conquered the interior of continents centuries ago.  That’s the kind of shift.

And then, what is required for how we relate with other powerful nations? China, Russia, they need to be our allies in developing the Moon, in developing cislunar space and making better ways to get off Earth, into orbit more efficiently and in larger degrees.  The development of fusion capabilities in space to really get around in the Solar System.

I think it’s important for people to realize, space is not just something for science fiction nerds to get excited about. This is part of the essence of what humankind is, and for that reason is central in this whole new paradigm fight that we’re engaged in right now, which is, again, this is why these guys are threatening the assassination of Trump; this is why these guys see Trump as a potential threat to the very existence of their system, because he’s said very clearly he’s ready to throw the chessboard over.  He’s saying “let’s cooperate with Russia, let’s cooperate with China.” Those are really on the table now, and this is what we have done to define space as the critical frontier, and that is absolutely indispensable, but understood from those terms.  It’s really the same issue.

Michael STEGER:  This question of U.S.-China relationship has been raised on the space question, you begin to  see the real potential that exists today with where Trump is doing.  The last couple of speeches that President Trump has made have been somewhat provocative; the press conference speech he made a couple of Thursdays ago, where he basically addressed the fact that the question of  — the danger of  a collapse of that relationship is nuclear holocaust, reminding the American people, or at least reminding the press corps of their insanity, of their current coverage of this this whole Russia-U.S. question.

At the CPAC conference, the Conservative PAC in Maryland last week, he said he intends to take the Republican Party to be the party of the American worker and for the forgotten man and woman of the United States, which far more echoes what Franklin Roosevelt had done; and there are reports of people that have been invited to him saying that he intends to bring the party back to Lincoln. That’s LaRouche’s Four Laws, that’s this economic program.  And then, just earlier today, he had a speech with some of the governors, the National Governors Association, and he was recounting the story of Terry Branstad, who’s his nomination for Ambassador to China.  And every time I came to Iowa, he said, Governor Brandstad would say, “don’t say anything bad about China.”  And he said, “Well, why?”  “He says, because we do a lot of business with China.  We have a really good relationship with China and I like China.”  So he said, “OK, OK.”

So the potential of U.S. collaboration with China is absolutely key, and on the space question, given China’s leadership on this over the last couple of years, planning a far side of the Moon landing, the idea that we’re now going back to the Moon, this was not in the discussion — I’m sure it was, with some of the NASA scientists; I don’t think they ever gave up their priority of the Moon.  I don’t think they ever thought a [manned flight to an] asteroid was worth anything, let alone just going to Mars on a one-way trip.  They knew the Moon was an absolutely critical factor of expanding our presence in the Solar System.

But within the first five weeks, we already have now a national policy discussion on how quickly we’re going to send men and women — you know we’re talking about the first women to the Moon within the next couple years, perhaps before the decades is out, but regardless fairly soon, within the very near time ahead, — this was out of the discussion; it was an entire Dark Age under Obama on this discussion.

And the reason this is so important is, one, Diane you indicated, we’ve got the State of the Union tomorrow.  Trump, he made a short reference to this in his Inaugural speech, is he going to capture the real essence of what Kennedy had inspired within the American people?  Are we really going to pull people out of the despair and pessimism, that dominates the American culture, the American media coverage, and begin to reignite a sense of mission for the country?  And that’s so essential.

Now, there’s another layer to this:  Apparently one of the leading State Councilors of China, Yang Jiechi has been meeting with Secretary of State Tillerson; there have been a number of high-level discussions going back even to the transition period with Trump, between high-level figures in his administration and from China.  And one of the key factors coming up over the next few months is a major summit held in Beijing, which is a summit of heads of state and government regarding the Belt and Road project.  Because this Belt and Road project is not simply a China, Asia, Europe orientation; this has already touched large portions of Africa,  — we’ve talked about the rail projects in Ethiopia, and East Africa; there’s a significant discussion of major developments in South America, some already ongoing; and there have been major offers from leading figures in China towards reinvesting their Treasury debt, our Treasury bonds, back into the United States in terms of infrastructure.

I personally talked to a leading figure who is already buying up plant space in California to begin to build the high-speed rail train in California, based on Chinese trains. There is real motion in these directions.

But in the potential for collaboration, President Trump should attend this summit, but his attendance should not simply be to participate in it, but it should be to uplift it towards a higher discussion, that we need a new international economic system, according to these very Four Laws that Mr. LaRouche put forward, and we need it to be a mission, not simply to develop the basic infrastructure for the world, but to set mankind on a course over the next centuries of expanding mankind’s sense of his relationship and identity in the Universe itself, around a space program.

What are we going to do in terms of international collaboration, for a Moon development? And it was referenced that some of the people considered for the head of NASA today are recognizing, we now have water on the Moon.  That’s hydrogen and oxygen; that’s the basic rocket fuel we’re currently using. There’s also as we know, helium-3, that can be used for fusion propulsion systems.

This kind of industrialization of the Moon presages a much greater expansion of mankind in the Solar System, especially as Kesha indicated with new propulsion systems.  These kinds of discussions, this is what this kind of summit of the Belt and Road should take up, are these greater potentials of mankind collaborating, regarding a new economic system.  And I think that anyone listening to this discussion and participating in this kind of mobilization should recognize that the collaboration of the U.S., Russia, and China, enables this kind of policy to unfold and certainly should be some part of the discussion that Mr. Trump raises in his State of the Union, but regardless, it should be the absolute commitment of everyone to this kind of policy happen, because it is certainly far more possible today than it has been over the entire 16 years, if not 30 or 44 years since we’ve actually been last to the Moon.

SARE:  Along these lines, I was reflecting LaRouche’s initiation of what we’re calling the “Manhattan Project.” Because part of what goes along with the discussion is a shift where people become optimistic, and then they realize that the way they’ve been thinking is really much too oppressed and beaten down, and grovelling for a crumb, as opposed to being human.  And I think we’re seeing that in the music work  in Manhattan. People know the arc of the founding of the Community Chorus, the four Requiem performances around the anniversary of 9/11; the work now expanding particularly around the question of the African American Spiritual and certain relationships also that that seems to have to Russian music; anyway, it’s a question of one’s intellectual or spiritual identity of what it means to be human.

And commensurate with that, LaRouche’s publication, EIR magazine, has begun to re-run LaRouche’s writings, which are extraordinary.  I mean, really challenging, and really challenging the reader to get to a much higher level.  And we’ve started a class series in Manhattan as well. [See “LaRouche’s Method” class series on http://lpac.co/youtube]  And what we’re seeing now after the first three of these classes is that the participants are beginning to get the idea that, because I think in their minds it used to be compartmentalized, “well, LaRouche says all this about great Classical music, but we do it here, and then we get to read these nice papers, but there’s no application for this in the real world.”  If you have no space program, if you have no fusion energy, what’s the point of mastering something that Einstein was working on?  Of course, that’s the point, but you get small.  Whereas, when these things become potential, all of a sudden, people’s identity gets bigger, and they want to know things, and they want to remember things that maybe they knew in the past, but they haven’t thought about for a long time. And it really changes the entire cultural dynamic.

DENISTON: Right.

BILL ROBERTS:  Yeah,  I think we definitely have gotten the sense in the last week or two weeks, that we’re dealing with a population who’s minds are coming out of the deep freeze.  As you’ve said many times, Diane, the general population is not as divided as the media would want to have us thing, on issues like wanting infrastructure, on the desire for an end to these regime-change wars, which is exactly why the media are having to be so completely hysterical in trying to keep people’s minds in this hyper-partisan mode.  But of course, what we’re finding, and what we found especially around these rallies that we held internationally on the Day of Truth, that people who thought they were very much committed to resisting Trump and these sorts of things, are actually very quickly realizing how they’re being basically played.

And that’s part of the reality that we have: That there is a very great potential for the population to respond very, very positively and optimistically to somethings like the revival of a real mission-orientation with the space program.  And I would just also add that the geopolitical — the fears that the British Empire has regarding the potential for Trump to really shatter this whole geopolitical structure that’s kept the United States as essentially the critical element of a British Empire that has prevented the unification of the world around a Franklin Roosevelt conception.

We’re now seeing that Helga Zepp-LaRouche’s call for a “Day of Truth” regarding the events of the Maidan coup, are  now picking up quite a bit; this was not a one-day event, but concurrent with our activities to release this dossier, we saw bombshell revelations from the two key figures of the former government that was driven from power in that Maidan coup, who have now made major revelations regarding the authorship of the escalation of violence at the Maidan: sniper killings which both Yanukovych, the former President, and Azarov, the former Prime Minister of Ukraine, are now saying that they can pin,  — and investigators in Kiev — are now saying they can pin these attacks on the people who took power immediately following that coup; that the people who are running the parliament in Ukraine today, were actually the ones who were responsible for these murders in Maidan, of both police and protesters, and are demanding a Truth Commission, an independent European Truth Commission, where people can testify.

And Helga Zepp-LaRouche said in response to this, that this is something that Donald Trump should immediately respond to, and it’s something that both Chancellor Merkel and President-elect Steinmeier of Germany, to whom Yanukovych wrote a letter to, would be very foolish to ignore this.

This is one aspect of the reality of what we’re living in now, with the real possibility of the shattering of geopolitics, is that the truth underpinning the entire narrative which has kept the world on the brink of an West-Russia war, can actually be dismantled.  And we’re seeing more and more people, for example, in Germany calling for an end to these sanctions.

I just wanted to point that out because you  combine this with the possibility in May to have the United States join in a discussion more significant and possibility involving more heads of state than a G20 summit, and you can just really see the breakout potential, transformation of this period.  And Trump in a certain way represents the point of transformation, but it’s everything that we can do which can actually create that transformation.

SARE:  That’s right.  I also think your point that the population is more unified; I was thinking of the DNC elections that just happened, where former Labor Secretary Thomas Perez is now the chairman of the DNC. And then I saw this little article this morning, “Democratic Party Poised For Big Wins in 2018” — -I thought “My gosh! They are so delusional!”  I said to someone, “they built a dollhouse and moved in.” [laughter]  They have no clue, and of course they’re screaming and fighting within the party, because what caused the defeat of Hillary Clinton has not been addressed!  And it absolutely was not Russia.

DENISTON:  No, she did a pretty good job by herself.  But what keeps coming to my mind is Mr. LaRouche’s his 90th birthday address in 2012 where he called for the end of the parties.  He did that on principle, but I think also on the fact that they had also become this crazy structure by which politics is controlled. But I think he also had a sense this thing is breaking down, and you see that, with all kinds of wild alliances with people who would normally identify one way or another way.  It’s really becoming much of an existential issue of the principled subjects we’re talking about, typified by Glass-Steagall, the Four Laws, infrastructure development, international cooperation vs Wall Street bail-outs.  Last desperate attempts to maintain some type of unipolar world against the rising powers — those are the defining issues.  What party you are, it’s a joke at this point!

I think we’re seeing the potential, if we keep fighting on the principled issues, for a complete upheaval and overthrow of this structure, this small cabal trying to control the Democratic Party is just — you couldn’t be more pathetic and just a train wreck; I mean, going through the whole election, and keep barreling down the path going the same way!  I mean this is incredible — arrogant and idiotic.  And this whole color revolution policy is a desperate attempt to keep that thing going, and we just have to crush it and get into the issue of principle and that’s what people are going to rally around.

STEGER:  Ben, I want to go back to what you raised with this Stockman report because I think it does put a certain urgency on a certain situation.  The one thing he does identify accurately is the fact that over the last 30 years the economic policy of the United States has created the worst economic and financial catastrophe than anyone has ever seen.  That since 1987 to today, this is when Greenspan comes in, this is when the Federal Reserve starts its bail-out programs to Wall Street banks, on a printing-press like scenario; and from that point on, we’ve just had a series of financial bubbles, financial blowouts and the complete destruction of the productivity of the American people.

Trump was able to capture a recognition of that from a majority of the American people to win the Presidency; and clearly, this thing is not going to function.  You’re not going to create jobs by tax cuts; you’re going to have to actually launch a completely new economic program.  And that’s why  — it’s not just Stockman, there are increasing warnings from a number of areas that this stock market bubble, which is really all that they have at this point.  Even the banks, like we saw with HSBC last week, has massive losses; these banks aren’t surviving.

They have a stock market bubble, this so-called “Trump bump” as they call it, it’s not going to last.  So the idea that Glass-Steagall an the full Four Laws perspective there to revive this Lincoln-FDR, to really bring the forgotten men and women back into the country, and to take what Kennedy really did with the space program  and pull that together, it really is the very core of the Four Laws that Lyn put forward.  And I think we’re at a point where we’re approaching converging, you might say, on a decisive point  on this regard, and I think we should have that up front in our organizing in the coming week.

ROGERS:  Yeah, I think it’s important to add that we have to keep in mind that we are out and LaRouche has committed the past 40-plus years to destroying this British imperials system. And that’s really what we’re dealing with right now, because the insanity that you see on the cabal, the whole operation being run by Obama, George Soros, on the Democratic Party side, is absolutely present with insane people like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio and so forth being funded and getting the same type of playtime with George Soros, billionaire, Wall Street, protection of Wall Street, protection of the British Empire. That’s that they’re out to do: The war-mongers who are continuing to say the United States should go to war with China, should keep the sanctions on Russia, and pressuring Trump that if he takes the sanctions off of Russia, that this is going to be bad situation for him.

But as we just said, there’s a shift going on right now. The reality is that Trump has made very clear that he is not concerned about keeping the “special relation” with the United States and the British Empire going, and that’s what we need to break.  There are no “special relations.”  We have to return to an American system identity, as has been stated: the idea of what Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, those representatives of the American System of republic have absolutely represented.  And that’s the potential that we’re seeing right now, and we have to continue to push that, as we shape this presidency in the right direction.  And the potential you’re already seeing coming from the fact that there is no capitulation coming from this President to the establishment forces.

But I also think, as Ben pointed out, and we made clear here, there’s a real subjective quality to how what we’re doing to create a new paradigm and a new conception of mankind, and a transformed conception of who we are as a human species.

And I would just encourage people that, as Diane said, in our [Executive Intelligence Review magazine we’ve reproduced a number of papers from Mr. LaRouche, the latest one, “On the Substance of Morality,” that Lyndon LaRouche wrote in 1998.  And it’s absolutely essential, because the question of morality goes deeper than just a religious question:  it is the question of what is the true existence and nature of man?  How do we improve and increase man’s mastery over the Universe? What is access and essential meaning of truth?  And the whole objective, which he demonstrates in that paper, asking the essential question, “Is mans knowledge of the physical universe, merely his conceit, or is there some objective proof, by means of which one kind of thinking corresponds, demonstrably, to the lawful ordering of our universe, and a contrary kind of thinking does not?”

The lawful ordering of the universe goes directly to the point of what Diane just said, of the importance of the musical composition, what we’re doing with our Manhattan Project, that the music is absolutely essential to making those discoveries that the Universe is law, it is just!  And that what the British Empire, Obama and these evil people are doing to stop mankind’s access to true justice, to true lawfulness in the Universe has to be ended.  And that has to prevail, truthfulness, lawfulness and the understanding of who we are as a species and how we can uplift mankind out of this insanity that has dominated the world for far too long.

SARE:  I think that’s absolutely right.  And I think it’s a good point to conclude the discussion, unless anyone has more. But I would like to remind people that President Trump does address both Houses of Congress tomorrow, so if you have not signed the Glass-Steagall petition on the LaRouche PAC website, you should get there right away [http://action.larouchepac.com/petition_glass_stegall_trump_sotu] and add your name.  It’s up on the screen here, people should go there, sign it, circulate it [http://lpac.co/trump-gs-sotu-pdf]; call your representatives.  Also, I think I can say we’re nearing the point of having at least an electronic version of our pamphlet on the Four Laws.

So everyone should watch this website, because if you want to understand what we’re talking about from a programmatic sense of how the United States can become part of the Belt and Road, then this will be extremely important reading. I don’t know if you want to add anything on that pamphlet?

DENISTON:  No, it should be out soon. It’s kind of an updated call to action, centered on Mr. LaRouche’s Four Laws policy document and adding more background and context, and making clear that this is, I would say, the United States’ pathway to joining the Belt and Road Initiative, to bringing the real American traditions, the Hamiltonian tradition, the American System tradition, and Mr. LaRouche has really developed into a new level of science of economic progress; bringing the United States back to that policy and bringing that into this global paradigm, and that’s what we should do right now.  We talked about principle earlier:  That’s principle.  Those are the issues and policies we need, and this is a new, updated report that will give people more ammunition and a better understanding so they can themselves go out and campaign and organize on this and mobilize the American people which is desperately needed right now.

SARE:  And in keeping with that, I would also like to say along the lines of what Kesha said, we do have some people with the Schiller Institute who could go to the Capitol and organize a chorus out of this Congress which, as we get Glass-Steagall reinstated and human beings back into space, there might be an interest.

So with that, I think we’ll conclude today’s program, and we’ll see everyone again next week.

 

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